I2P dev meeting, December 11, 2012 @ 20:00 UTC
Quick recap
- Present:
lillith, Meeh, postman, psi, str4d, topiltzin, zzz
- Next Meeting
The next meeting is scheduled for Tuesday, December 18 @ 20:00 UTC (8:00PM)
Volles IRC Log
20:20:09 <str4d> <str4d> Not sure where dg is, so I propose that we get the meeting started anyway, continuing on with the agenda from last week (or restarting it if necessary).
20:20:09 <str4d> (http://zzz.i2p/posts/5779)
20:20:18 <iRelay> Title: zzz.i2p: IRC Meetings (at zzz.i2p)
20:40:14 <str4d> No one going to reply?
20:41:48 <Meeh> I'm in for a meeting
20:42:09 <Meeh> but IRC was really unstable today
20:51:48 <str4d> Does someone want to chair and start a meeting? No idea where dg has got to, and I've got to leave partway though so I can't.
20:52:40 <str4d> Looks like iRelay is on postman's server, so if the chair is also there then disconnects won't affect the meeting log.
21:01:13 <psi> meeting was...?
21:01:32 * lillith volunteers to chair once i have zzz.i2p loaded succesfully
21:04:05 <psi> meeting is now rite?
21:05:43 <lillith> yep unless anyone else wants to chair
21:07:16 <psi> ok
21:07:16 <psi> topics?
21:07:16 <lillith> So, Carrying on from where we left off last week, orion are you in here?
21:09:52 <psi> sounds doable
21:09:54 <lillith> i'm not sure what for though, seems a little pointless to me at least
21:10:20 <psi> to make a more structured environment for helping users
21:10:27 <psi> iirc
21:10:48 <topiltzin> more like pool resources
21:11:05 <topiltzin> +1 on that but iirc someone had to be asked first (the owner of the channel? who is/was that?)
21:11:13 <lillith> so combine two fairly dead channels to a less dead one?
21:11:50 <topiltzin> yah
21:12:23 <lillith> okay item 2a: who owns each cannel and what do they think?
21:12:50 <lillith> 2b: is the new channel #i2p or #i2p-help?
21:12:57 * postman owns #i2p and thinks nothing in particular
21:13:31 <postman> #i2p should keep its name
21:13:33 <lillith> 2c: ask someone to delete one and redirect people to the other
21:13:38 <postman> zzz owns #i2p-help
21:14:10 <psi> i suppose the ircd can do a "symlink" of sorts for channels?
21:14:12 <lillith> i think new users need an obvious 'help' channel to go to first when they connect
21:14:31 <lillith> otherwise they will just ask in random channels
21:14:51 <postman> re: symlink. i will check that
21:16:35 <lillith> okay, item 2 dealt with?
21:18:16 <lillith> item 3: website revamp updates.
21:18:35 <lillith> str4d, any news?
21:18:37 <psi> how many are working on that?
21:23:13 <lillith> psi: afaik only str4d
21:28:17 <lillith> re: Item 4 : 0.9.4 Console links additions, i think str4d has gone and books isn't here, maybe next week?
21:28:17 <str4d> lillith, about to go afk
21:28:26 <str4d> But website page reorganization is basically done.
21:33:45 <str4d> I'd like some feedback from people on it (navigation and url structure) - see ticket #807 for the live url
21:33:48 <iRelay> http://trac.i2p2.i2p/ticket/807 - (accepted enhancement) - Revamp of website
21:33:50 <str4d> And that ticket also lists the next todo items for the revamp.
21:33:50 <lillith> okay, thanks :)
21:34:09 <lillith> item 5 ; 0.9.4 release
21:35:46 <lillith> zzz, are you still aiming for mid-december?
21:39:52 <zzz> monday. see also /topic and http://zzz.i2p/topics/1252
21:39:55 <zzz> and re: console link additions, that agenda item can be pushed out 6 weeks for 0.9.5
21:45:02 <lillith> okay thanks :)
21:45:09 <lillith> item 6 : any notes from participants
21:45:09 <lillith> ... anyone?
21:45:09 <psi> notes?
21:45:09 <lillith> anything you wish to add
21:45:09 <psi> the most common complaint from new users is that it's slow at start
21:45:22 <psi> is there any way to address that?
21:49:54 <Meeh> make the installer include RIs could help on the startup speed. But it's not a flawless solution
21:49:54 <Meeh> what if dose RIs goes down, or high load, etc etc
21:49:54 <psi> is there a "faster" way to initial seed besides prebundling?
21:49:54 <zzz> Meeh, is your reseed server script at all a bottleneck? is it slowing down reseeding at all?
21:49:54 <Meeh> higher the limit before the router stop reseeding to 2-300.. But not a flawless idea either
21:49:54 <lillith> Meeh,surely any solution would be better than none
21:49:54 <Meeh> it slows the server down if it's much used since it's a write lock on sqlite
21:49:56 <Meeh> I should make a mysql version, and those reseeders that could use it, would help a lot
21:51:20 <lillith> prebundling RIs could only speed up initial startup; worst case is that it's the same as now
21:51:20 <Meeh> then the file/db lock wouldn't be a bottleneck anymore
21:52:49 <Meeh> or whatever else *sql as long as it run as a server
22:01: <lillith> orion dosen't seem to be here, and i don't see how we can go on without him
22:04: <lillith> item 7: next meeting
22:06: <topiltzin> pre-bundling has some strong arguments against it, they are available on zzz.i2p
22:07: <lillith> i'l leave this to dg , presumably it will be 8.00 UTC next tuesday (18th)
22:08: <lillith> topiltzin, i'l take a look
22:09: <lillith> I'd say this meeting is now officially over then :)